Wednesday, October 31, 2007

Reformation Day Part III

Why concern ourselves with what happened four hundred ninety years ago? We have our Bibles, why bother studying history and theology? Don't they just divide the church unnecessarily?

The Reformation is a vital part of Church History. All Church History must be taught and learned by Christians. By remembering the Reformation, we can see what the Church did right, and in many cases, did wrong. Modern Church Growth movements, revivals, and "new" revelations from God can be compared with the success of the Reformers. (BTW, this can also be done using other successful times in Church History, not just the Reformation)

One of the most important reasons we should remember the Reformation is the lesson on discernment. Do you really think the unorthodox teachings (prayers to the saints and for the dead, indulgences, purgatory, salvation by faith plus works, the elevation of Mary that would continue even after Martin Luther and the near worship of saints and angels) just appeared overnight? Nope. These teachings were gradually inserted over time. What was introduced in an early church council was, by the time of Luther, doctrine. Why? Because tradition was elevated to the authority of scripture. As time went on, scripture became less and less important. The Reformers wanted a return to Biblical Christianity, using the Scriptures as the FINAL authority. They were not opposed to tradition per se, but anything that conflicted with Scripture was to be discarded. To the Reformers, the Scripture was "The norm that normed all other norms". This is why so many doctrines were abandoned by Luther and his followers. Let us continue, using the Scriptures, to discern true and false doctrine.

The Reformers wanted their people knowledgeable of Scripture and doctrine. To this end, not only did Martin Luther translate the Bible from a dead Latin to a living German (his language) but published a catechism for the training of small children and new Christians. Others would continue his practice till everyone, regardless of one's language would be able to read and interpret the Bible for themselves. If more churches would remember their history, maybe so many in the pews would not be so ignorant of vital church doctrine; ignorant and/or unable to defend it to an unbeliever or seeker. No wonder the cults have made such inroads in our churches. How many of our churches worship services are more about entertainment than doctrine? How many have replaced theologically rich hymns with repetitive praise songs with little substance?

The Reformers had a rule "Semper Reformenda" "Always Reforming." This doesn't mean we can reinterpret the Bible or invent new doctrine like the liberals or cults do. What it means is we, as a church, must always go back to the Scriptures for instruction. If a church is in error, reform itself, using the Bible.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Reformation Day

To most people, including Christians, October 31st is Halloween. More important, on this day, Martin Luther nailed his 95 statements to the Wittenberg Castle Church, starting the Protestant Reformation. You can read the statements here. http://www.carm.org/creeds/95theses.htm. But why should we know about the Reformation? Why was this event so important? Let's take a closer look.

For at least three hundred years, maybe more, the Christian church slowly became more and more corrupt. Tradition became as authoritative as Scripture. Teachings that were introduced at the close of the Roman Empire became established dogma to be believed by every Christian. Check out these two paragraphs from Canon I of the Fourth Lateran Council 1215:

There is one Universal Church of the faithful, outside of which there is absolutely no salvation. In which there is the same priest and sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the forms of bread and wine; the bread being changed (transsubstantiation) by divine power into the body, and the wine into the blood, so that to realize the mystery of unity we may receive of Him what He has received of us. And this sacrament no one can effect except the priest who has been duly ordained in accordance with the keys of the Church, which Jesus Christ Himself gave to the Apostles and their successors.
But the sacrament of baptism, which by the invocation of each Person of the Trinity, namely of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, is effected in water, duly conferred on children and adults in the form prescribed by the Church by anyone whatsoever, leads to salvation. And should anyone after the reception of baptism have fallen into sin, by true repentance he can always be restored. Not only virgins and those practicing chastity, but also those united in marriage, through the right faith and through works pleasing to God, can merit eternal salvation.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/lateran4.html These two paragraphs barely scratch the surface, but they set down or reaffirmed several familiar doctrines of the Established Church. By the time Luther came on the scene, the church had invented such teachings as indulgences, and purgatory and simple salvation by faith ALONE was substituted for a long list of works. To raise money the Pope sold indulgences (get out of purgatory passes) and priests and popes had many mistresses and children. One Pope in Particular, Alexander VI had several bastard children and lived like a king. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI# This was hardly unique. Remember, the Church made it clear, outside the church there is NO salvation. Not outside the invisible church, outside the VISIBLE church so whatever the church said, was true.

Even Dr. Luther tried to earn God's favor by becoming an Augustinian Monk. After studying scripture, he discovered when one had faith, one was already justified (declared righteous) by Faith ALONE. Dr. Luther began to see many of the errors of his church and became convinced scripture alone was sufficient for faith. On October 31st, he nailed his arguments to his church door.

Thus began the greatest return to Biblical Christianity the church has ever known. By the time of Luther's death in 1546, he had stood up to the Pope, translated the Scriptures into German, and wrote and preached countless books and sermons. Others would follow to continue the work he started, many dying as martyrs but the seeds for true reform had been laid.

Luther was used by God to bring his church back to Him. He was not perfect. He was not charitable to the Jews and was many times hostile to others holding different views, but he was a man used by God to help bring his church back to Him Let all Christians remember a Man of God this Reformation Day.

Friday, October 26, 2007

Time For Truth

I'm amazed at the howls of outrage directed at Rex Duncan and other members of the legislature after they (politely) declined copies of the Koran.

The Muslims and their enablers are leveling the usual charges. The members of Congress are closed minded, unamerican, divisive, and tampering on their rights.

I'm sorry, how is refusing a group's literature infringing on their rights? By this same logic, I'm trampoling on the rights of Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses when I refuse their literature. BTW, I've studied both and have come to the conclusion through research and talking to members of both both are outside historic Christianity so I'm not being closed minded. Furthermore, Rep. Duncan POLITELY declined a copy of the Koran. I ask again, how is that being abusive, mean, divisive, etc?

I think it's time to turn the tables around and ask the Muslim leadership for answers to the following questions...

Why do we not hear more Muslims speaking out against terrorism? Why are Muslim groups such as CAIR sympathetic to terrorism? Who is bombing Israeli targets? You guessed it, Muslims. What country is funding anti American Islamic schools? Why that would be the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, an Islamic theocracy. Whether it is Spain, The Netherlands, Indonensia or 9/11, all of these acts of violence have been committed by Muslims. Ok, let's say they are radicals who've "hijacked" the Koran, why aren't more Oklahoma Muslims speaking out? The one instance where one did resulted in his being expelled from his house of worship.

Muslim leaders, do not fake anger or outrage. Rep. Duncan was polite when he refused the Koran. He simply offered some advice you would do well to take. YOU are the ones that owe us an explanation.

I'm not letting area Muslim leaders off the hook in the name of "tolerance". They need to be held accountable for the actions of those practicing their religion.

P.S. Yes, a if somebody murdered an abortionist in the name of Christianity, I would speak out against their crime. The Bible forbids murder. The Koran, in some parts, does not.

P.P.S. I am not for violence against Muslims. If I met one I would share the Gospel with him/her and would show them the love of Christ. Several years ago when I had to take taxi cabs to and from work I met three Muslims that were very friendly and hospitable. Nevertheless, despite my love (or in spite) for Muslims, I must be honest about the silence directed towards terrorists by members of this religon and the the bloodthirsty tenets found in the Koran

Who is standing up for the Innocent?

I heard this morning on KFAQ, HB 1804 is again under attack by the usual suspects. Their justification? They are defending the (unnamed) victims who will be unjustly deported by the enforcement of HB 1804.

The conversation then went into the documentation of the influx of illegal aliens committing crimes. From Pennsylvania to Texas to our own Oklahoma, Americans are seeing the affects of these crimes. For example, Philadelphia is now known as a hot spot for human smuggling. Local Pennsylvania leaders are calling the increase in crime committed by illegal aliens an invasion and rightly so. In Texas, a sizable amount of those in prison are illegal aliens. The question was then asked on the show…...

Who is standing up for the victims of these crimes?

Who is standing up for the 2 year old in Texas killed by a drunk driver who happened to be an illegal alien? Who is standing up for the thousands of victims of crimes committed by people who should not even be in our country? Are the two “reverends” standing up for s Americans unable to get emergency room care because border hospitals have been shut down due to the influx of illegal’s? How many of our tax dollars are going to prosecute criminals that shouldn'tt even be in America?

Answer me “reverends” and for that matter, your group La Raza can answer too, why aren’t you standing up for the innocent? What’s more important, the lives of innocent Americans, created in the image of God or your own personal agenda?

It appears you may be answering that by your actions.

BTW, on a side note, La Raze is Spanish for “The Race” Yeah, tolerant group aren’t they?

Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Catering on the Taxpayer's Dime

An Executive order from Governor Henry created the Ethnic American Advisory Council. Interestingly, the council consists entirely of Muslims. Furthermore, this group is distributing copies of the Quran to all members of the legislators. Taken from a Google article, here is Legislature Rex Duncan’s reason why he is refusing the copy of the Quran.

“Most Oklahomans do not endorse the idea of killing innocent women and children in the name of ideology,” he said in an interview with the Associated Press. Duncan said he objected “to the use of the state Centennial Seal and the state Seal all in an effort to further their (Muslims’) religion.”

He’s not the only one, other members of our legislator are now refusing copies of the (supposedly) holy book.
Which is why I ask, is this something a private group is funding or is Governor Henry expecting the tax payers to pick up the tab?


Update: Per Fox local news, no state funds were used to purchase the Korans.

Saturday, October 20, 2007

The Gospel of "Feel Good Theology"

A week or so ago 60 Minutes did a segment on Joel Osteen. The title was "America's Most Popular Pastor" What does Mr. Osteen preach? Why does he draw so many people? We Christians are to discern all teachings, comparing it to God's Word the same way the Bereans did. What struck me most during the interview was Mr. Osteen's apparent lack of theological depth. One doesn't have to give a detailed comparison between John Calvin and John Wesley, but a little understanding would have been appreciated.

It is obvious Mr. Osteen's theology (if one can call it that) is Word Faith. Reading his books and listening to his sermons, his message is simple. Ask expecting to get. If you want something, think positive. The clips played have him saying right out that our words have meaning. If you think positive, BINGO! you can have what you think. (better job, pay raise, better life now etc)This of course works the opposite too. If you thinK bad things they also can occur. His message on giving is rather interesting as well. Rather than give because God wants us to give, he reduces giving to a forumula. To get what you want, simply give. God HAS to respond to you wishes if you give. Like other Word Faith Charismatics, he takes entire passages and verses completely out of context, making them mean something completely different that what the original authors meant for them to say.

The methodology of his church is Seeker Sensitive. For those unaware, the Seeker Sensitive movement focuses on people's felt needs. (think Rick Warren) These churches focus on what the church can do for you. As such, one will not hear sermons about suck sticky subjects as sin, judgment, repentance, the atonement, justification, faith, works, etc. If one listens to the broadcast one will see a smiling Mr. Osteen telling the reporter how the lights change colors with each song. This obviously is to create a mood, to heck with teachings, just work over people's emotions. I also noticed how completely scripted Mr. Osteen's church is. The songs are selected so the most can be gotten out of everybody's emotions. You won't hear anything about sin or repentence at his church. Those are too negative.

So, as Christians, should't we be happy in the Joy of the Lord? Why not be positive? After all, should the world see something different in us? Why am I and a host of others so hard on Mr. Osteen? Why can't we just "agree to disagree?"

We as Christians should be happy, but WHY are we happy? That is a question Mr. Osteen MUST answer. As Christians, are we always going to be happy? Let me tell all of you something, I wasn't the happiest person when my mother was suffering from brain cancer. Nor was I happy when I went through my divorce. Did I have God's reassurance? Yes, but I was not "positive" like Mr. Osteen asserts. As for blessings, yes, God does bless. Many times, however, it is not the way we mere mortals think we should be blessed. Mr. Osteen focuses on "Your Best LIfe Now" rather than "Laying up treasures in heaven" I have had times where God blessed me with material possessions, other times, it is spiritual blessings. We as Christians need to be open to either. God many times will say "no" not because he is mean, but because he knows what is best. He's not our "daddy" that spoils his kids the way WF teachers make him out to be.

Mr. Osteen also preaches only part of the Gospel. In the business of souls, part is as bad as none. Others have said it better than I have. He seems to think "God is love, love everybody, and if you want something from God, he will give it to you." That's pretty much it. Nowhere does he address man's sinful state, our total loss without God, the (just) consequences for our sin, what it took for man to obtain forgivemess for sin (Christ's death on the cross), man's need for repentence, and the result of man's refusal to trust Christ. I don't know about anybody else, but the realization that I'm born in sin and have a first class ticket to hell isn't something that is too uplifting. Only when I trusted in Christ was I able to rejoice, not because of some emotional mind trick, but because I KNEW my sins were forgiven. I can now say with John Wesley my heart was "strangly warmed"

I applaud Mr. Osteen's emphasis on giving and loving others. However, the Word Faith and Seeker Sensitive teachings in his church make these good points almost moot. Also, as stated earlier, this is only part of the Gospel. Without man knowing his sinful state and need for Christ, he is eternaly lost.

Part of the Gospel will send people to hell as much as none of the Gospel.

Here are some links on Mr. Osteen.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/229-joel-osteen
Go down to and click on the Larry King Live segment. You will see what I mean when I say Mr. Osteen is lukewarm.

Here is the 60 Minutes broadcasst.
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3366025n

Wednesday, October 17, 2007

Leave of Absence

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071017_1__OralR36523 According to this article, Richard Roberts was granted a temporary leave of absence.

This is a good step, kudos to ORU for taking it.

Tuesday, October 16, 2007

No Mr. Rivera It's Not Ethnic Cleansing

To no one's surprise HB 1804, the bill clamping down on illegal immigration, is being challenged. "Rev." Miguel Rivera and his crony "Rev" Victor Orta have filed a lawsuit attempting to thwart the will of the people. You can read the story here: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=12&articleID=071016_1_A1_spanc57517 Get a load of his quote; this is taken verbatim from the Tulsa World article. "The leaders and people behind House Bill 1804 are guilty of ethnic cleansing," said the coalition's president, the Rev. Miguel Rivera, at a press conference outside the federal court building. Get that? ETHNIC CLEANSING...Before I go into the absurdity of this statement, let me first say how disappointed I am in Mr. Rivera's claim. I'll not call him Reverend as he is telling not only an out right lie, but he is exploiting the people he claims to represent. The comments are inflammatory and insulting to those who uphold our laws. What Orta and Rivera fail to see in this law is an attempt to uphold the laws of our country, laws, unless deemed contrary to God's word, they are bound to follow. Don't take my word, check out Romans.

1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake
Romans 13:1-5 (NKJV)
So, gentlemen, if you are men of God, are to obey the laws of the land. Also, the Illegal aliens that sneak into our country are law breakers and, according to the same passage, deserve to be punished (i.e. sent back to whatever country they came from) Another facet of this law that escapes their attention is the protection aspect of it. This law is designed to protect citizens of our country, Hispanic, black, white, Asian, it doesn't matter. Who are these gentlemen more concerned about? As for "ethnic cleansing" maybe Rivera and Orta ought to brush up on their history and current events to learn what ethnic cleansing really is. Here are a few incidents lifted from history and current events.

The numerous deportations by Stalin before and after WWII of ethnic peoples.

The mass murder of farmers in the Ukraine by Stalin's man made famine during forced collectivization. (possibly 5 million farmers died)

The deportations of both the Northern and Southern kingdoms of Israel and Judah by the Assyrians and Bablyonans in 722 and 586 B.C.

Deportations of Jews from Arab countries in the modern era.

Deportations of Jews, Poles, Slaws, and other native peoples from their homelands by Hitler during World War II. Many of these ended up in death camps.

The former Yugoslavia where ethnic cleansing was taking place by the Serbs.

And others.

Anybody see the comon denominator? Each of these examples involve taking people from THEIR land. Making those who break into our country, therefore breaking our laws and who many times cost tax payers money go back to ther land is not "ethnic cleansing"

So, gentlemen, before you come to our wonderful state where the people spoke and bad mouth our police, brush up on your history and get your facts straight. Or is it you know full well you are telling lies, and the more sensational your accusations can be, the more press time you will get.

Hey it works for two other Professional victims, Jessee Jackson, and Al Sharpton, maybe you figure it can work for you too?

Monday, October 15, 2007

New Look

Please be patient, I'm new to this blogging thing and I'm playing around with the format and colors. I like this parchment look. I figure it's me because I love books.

Feel free to drop me a line letting me know what you think of the design or the blog content. Who knows, you may see different colors and fonts before too long.

Until later, Have Fun!

The Plot Thickens.

KJRH had a story Saturday night about new allegations leveled against ORU. Some include Lindsay's spending time with an underage male. Whether it was innocent or not, who knows, but one thing I can't understand is why would the Roberts put themselves in such a situation? A judge and jury will have to sort through the allegations.

One comment Ms. Roberts made really rubbed me the wrong way . When asked about their lifestyle, Ms. Roberts gave the typical Word Faith answer. "God wants his children to prosper"

I've said this before, this is a common teaching in the WF movement. Why do so many people fall for such false teachings on health/wealth, who God is, who man is, the nature of Christ's death (they state he died spiritually, and some even say he HAD to go to hell to pay for our sins), and the nature of faith?

Yet more evidence of the need for all Christians to become knowledgeable in the Word.

Let us continue to pray for the situation at ORU.

Saturday, October 13, 2007

Tiger by the Tail

Looks like we will have a new #1 NCAA football team. In a three overtime win, Kentucky defeated LSU. Now we get to see who the new #1 team will be. Too bad OU squandered the opportunity to beat Colorado, they may have had a chance.

UPDATE: Just got word Cal lost so Ohio State will be our new #1 team. Stay tuned.

Remember those that are in prison

"Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body"
Heb 13:3 (ESV)


When I received my latest edition of "The Voice of the Martyrs" magazine, this verse came to mind. Let us not forget those brothers and sisters in Christ who daily suffer persecutions for Him. Whether in China, Vietnam, India, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, or South America, we should pray for, and assist in any way those who suffer for His name.

As Americans, let us NEVER take advantage of the freedoms we have. (Sorry liberals and those ignorant, there is no amendment titled "Separation of Church and State") Let's take advantage of these rights by sponsoring men and women to attend Biblical schools, teaching them the doctrines of the faith. These same workers can then go overseas and teach local pastors. The locals are willing to do the work, they just need to be equipped. We can also raise money for and sponsor local churches. Let us educate ourselves about the plight of our overseas brothers and sisters.

Here is VOM's web site.... http://www.persecution.com/

I would be remiss without including the amazing growth Christ's church is experiencing overseas. In China for example, hundreds are coming to faith everyday. In Africa, there are more Anglicans than in the UK and USA. Contrast that church with the dying ECUSA in our land. In the Middle East there is a thirst for the Gospel despite persecution. Christ was correct when he said "I will establish my church and the gates of hell will not overcome."

This is another subject I wish to post about later in the future. For now, here is a sermon from Karl Eason from VOM speaking at our church.
http://calvarytulsa.org/Downloads.htm#Pics Go to the August 26th 2007 message. You will be uplifted.



Friday, October 12, 2007

Everyday stuff.

A few weeks ago with the purchase of WW's computer, I bought a flash drive. Several people said one would come in handy so, having the extra cash and finding on on sale, I took the plunge.

Now , remember, the last time I had a computer was in the 90's when Megabyte was the norm; no one ever heard of a Gigabyte. Needless to say, I had a lot of catching up to do.

All I can say is....."How have I gotten along so long without this beauty"? I mean, WOW! I can transfer documents to and from my laptop to my wife's computer. As for music, instead of lugging seven or eight Cd's to work, now all I do is rip them to the hard drive, then transfer them to the flash. With 4 GB memory, it has more then enough room.

I am really glad I spent the cash to get one of these beauties.

Coming Attractions

With the River tax vote now in the history books (until they try it again) what is a new blogger to blog about? I have a few ideas, time permitting, of course.

I LOVE history and theology. I hope to blog about interesting events in church history.

I heard a radio program about a week ago detailing the decline of mainline denominations. Taking my idea from the show, I hope, time permitting, to blog about each denomination. I feel we can learn from these churches, and encourage them to turn back to the Lord.

Hopefully, I can post about the happenings at ORU. I still feel they deserve their day in court. With that said, I also feel, due to their teachings and who the associate with, they have serious doctrine error.

Depending on my time schedule, I hope to blog about these subjects and more.

No Excuse

With the decline of mainline denominations (the latest news story involving the Presbyterian Church USA where orthodox congregations are leaving, finding a new home with the Evangelical Pres. Church), the story here http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNFB_ExEStbyhLF3Ux-XTui0bowgD8S7IJTO0 the body of Christ is in trouble. The laity has become complacent, or outright ignorant.

I have two words..... NO EXCUSE.

NEVER in the history of mankind have books been so easily available. From the library (I checked out a copy of Luther's Small Catechism before I received one), to web sites, (a good one is
http://www.cbd.com/, but so is Amazon) to sale items at stores like Mardel, one can easily borrow or purchase books at excellent prices. In addition, many books are available online. There are several web sites that host Christian classics including books by the Reformers, Church Fathers, and other leaders. The Information age is an age where knowledge abounds. We, however, will not benefit from this advancement in technology if we do not use it.

As good as learning theology and church history are, NOTHING should take the place of studying Scripture. The Reformers had a phrase "Sola Scriptura", scripture alone. But how many people take the time to study God's Word? When we fail, unorthodox traditions creep into the church. This is the very reason why we should be thankful there was a Protestant Reformation.

When one does not study God's Word by reading it prayerfully and allowing oneself to be aided by many excellent commentaries, they will find themselves vulnerable to doctrinal error. Whether it is the theological errors plaguing many minsters that align themselves with ORU by teaching Word Faith errors, or liberal churches that outright deny Biblical truth, to Seeker Sensitive churches that do not wish to "offend" anybody, the average Christian will be vulnerable without the knowledge of Scripture.

Studying scripture is important, but as Christians, we ignore church history (the good and the bad) at our own peril. By studying history (HIS story) we see the Bible come to life in the lives of everyday men and women who claimed it for themselves. Whether it is somebody coming to faith for the first time, or the strength of a martyr, the assurance God gives comes through loud and clear. This is why Martin Luther said, "Unless I can be convinced by Scripture and plain reason, I cannot recant". This is what encourages Christians to meet in secret where Christianity is outlawed and to smuggle bibles into dangerous parts of the world.

We also see the mistakes churches in the past made in our attempt to learn from them. One last note of interest - by learning from the past, we can also see many of the doctrinal errors plaguing our churches. EVERY cult teaches doctrine deemed as heresy by the early church. "There is nothing new under the sun"; yes, that was from, you guessed it, The Bible.

Let all of us, young and old alike, study God's word and become more knowledgeably and discerning.


FYI, For more information about Christian doctrine and church writings, check out the links on the right side of the blog. I will add others as time permits.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007

WE WON (continued)

In other words....The cheerleader said no and kept her virtue. (See my post titled "If You Really Love me, You'd Say Yes" for explanation).

We did it folks, by a margin of 47% to 53% the nos carried the day. I also heard most of the areas where the yes won, the vote was closer than they thought. Here aw my thoughts.

The No votes were outspent at least 10-1. Not even the slick advertising, half truths (I'll not call them liars), the theft of signs (I'll call them thieves), a one sided daily paper and a war chest of several million were able to sway enough people to swallow the poison tax pill.

I believe we can have a River development plan (in fact, private development will happen without tax dollars) if Chairman Miller will try something new that is listen to the people and not her Special Interest buddies. Randi, if you want to stay in office, you'd better listen more and follow the GOBs a lot less. Honestly, I'm not betting on it. I've never seen a County Commissioner that is so bent on getting people to "like" her. Oh that she would have shown this concern to those that vote her in and (hopefully) vote her out of office.

This proves grassroots movements can and do work. I'll be honest, I thought we'd end up paying a higher tax, but I am happy to admit I was WRONG, 100% WRONG. Now, let's not lose our steam. Word is, come spring, KIT will be introducing a Roads tax. We need to stay focused and be as discerning with that proposition as we were with the River tax. I can see myself paying a tax for roads, but she'll have a hard sell with me after spending millions of dollars moving City Hall.

Slick wording on the ballot didn't work. The elites must have thought we were stupid. The ballot was for developing the river, sort of, it also said "and or" whatever the county wants to spend the money on. Bottom line, we would've handed Chairman Miller and her buddies a blank check.

Again, thank you Tulsa and the surrounding areas for doing the right thing and voting NO.


Addendum: Councilors Perry and Smaligo, you got slapped. That's OK, we all make mistakes. Don't follow in the the footsteps of Chairman MoaMiller. The Tulsa World, Chamber, and other elites do not have to answer to your voters. Listen to the people that put you in office. If you don't, you will find yourselves out of a job. Learn from the River Vote defeat and from now on stand on the principle that got both of you elected.

Tuesday, October 9, 2007

WE WON!!!!!!

Final vote: 47 Yes 53 No

Richard Roberts on CNN

When I heard Richard Roberts was going to be on CNN, I hooked up the trusty lap top and listened. Like WW on her blog, I agree neither of them gave straight answers. Whether it was texting underage kids (their daughters had phones and the Roberts' had a ministry for troubled youth) or Senior trips (Richard had a speaking engagement) there was an answer for everything. I know the Roberts' deserve their day in court, but the lifestyle and behavior make them all the more suspicious. Something else that concerned me is when both Oral and Richard said they would have the Regents look into the matter. Do we really think the regents, a list of who's who in the Word Faith Movement will be impartial? These same regents attend the annual ICBM ministries hosted by ORU. That is like the fox guarding the hen house. Not only are they supportive of ORU by their involvement w/the university, but ORU seems to subscribe to the WOF teachings their regents peddle. If ORU wants to get to the bottom of these charges, Richard should step down until the issue is resolved by an IMPARTIAL investigator.

The Roberts are insincere if they do anything else.

Counting Down

I did my civic duty and voted on the way home frm work. I don't know how this will go as I heard it's going to be pretty close. I sure hope it fails, but I wouldn't bet on it. If I'm wrong, I don't mind somebody telling me "I told you so" Anyway, nothing to do but wait.

Whatever the outcome I will stll get up and go to work in the morning.

I just heard from WW Richard Roberts will "explain" himself on Larry King Live. If I watch, I'll try and blog about the show.

Well, going to put groceries up.

Monday, October 8, 2007

Vote

Whichever side of the River tax you are on, remember to get out and vote. It's your right and one too many people do not take advantage of.

With that said, if you are against the tax, PLEASE vote. Reports are out this vote will be close so we need every vote we can get. Even now, the pro tax crowd cannot tell us how pumping tax dollars into the river will do all the things they say it will. All smoke and mirrors.

It's your choice.

Update: Another commercial came on making the dire warning we won't get another chance. BULL. If is so good, the private sector will take care of the river.

Saturday, October 6, 2007

If You Really Loved Me You'd Say Yes

While watching OU one of those pro tax commercials came on the TV. Of coruse this commercial was different. Gone were the little children begging for my money. Instead, the tag line said "Other cities said yes" "No won't buid up Tulsa" This ploy reminded me of a high school kid trying to score with his girl friend. I could've sworn I saw a football jock with his cheerleader honey in the back seat of his car..."But Honey, if you love me you'll say yes" Anybody with an ounce of life experience knows what the jock really wants. It's the same with our city; the leaders won't respect us any more than the cheerleader's "boyfriend" They will spend our money and when they are done, ask us for more. Are you going to give them more of your money to mismanage?

Tulsa, say no. Have self respect for youself and your family. Tell our County leaders you don't buy their swet talk, fix our roads first. Let the private sector develope the river. Staff and fund our police. and reduce our crime These are things our city should be doning.

Vote NO October 9th.

Friday, October 5, 2007

There is Good In Our City

I've been pretty harsh on our elected leaders and for good reason. The amount of back room dealings is a disgrace. Many of our leaders have little regard for those who live outside the "special" (i.e. midtown) area. Even though my tone is harsh, I write because I have a love for this great city and know it has many wonderful qualities.

For starters, our downtown is full of historic buildings. Few towns our size have the number of large churches in such a short radius. These buildings and others in the downtown area are a living history of a bygone era, he oil boom. They also offer a glimpse into the different architecture types used in this city.

Drive towards North Denver and get a look at the Brady Mansion. Mapleridge also has many historic homes that are a sight to behold. Our city also an interesting Route 66 legacy. I am amazed at the strong family values our city has. Truly our city is a faith oriented city with a host of Godly churches.

While I could go on and on, this post is by no means exhaustive. I simply want to express how much I love this great city of ours and am proud to call Tulsa mine and my family's home. Because I know we can do berrer is why I many times will without apology express my opinions.

Tulsa is a city that belongs to EVERYONE, not just a privileged few.

Extreme (City) Makeover

I heard on the news last night KIT, my WW’s name for our mayor since she is so obsessed with our city’s image, said our city is improving and wants neighborhoods beautified and roads repaired.

I wonder what part of Tulsa KIT is looking at? Of course from the multi million dollar mansion KIT and her husband share, the city is beautiful. Maybe KIT ought to venture out to where the other half live. Maybe out to East Tulsa which has some of the worst roads and business have left there like the Children of Israel leaving Egypt. I grew up in East Tulsa and will tell you first hand, it has gone downhill since I was a kid. I don’t even know if it is safe to go out at night anymore. It wasn’t’ that way when I lived there as a child and young adult. When we would visit my father before he moved, I would remark to the wife about how much the area has changed, and not for the better. Why not travel out to North Tulsa whose residents live in an area of the city that has been abandoned by our leaders. Better yet, explain to these fellow Tulsans why she can justify spending millions of dollars on moving City Hall but can’t fully staff and finance the police to bring down our out of control crime rate. Why not venture out to South Tulsa who’s residents have had to fight a bridge battle with little support from our leaders. Or, KIT could go out to West Tulsa and explain the lack of involvement from their side of the river. (Chris Medlock did an excellent job representing that district, even surviving a recall attempt)

I heard she has a task force to investigate our failing roads. Why do I think the task force will recommend a road tax?

Any sane person wants better neighborhoods, but that will happen when the citizens can breath easy knowing police officers are there to protect them from the violent thugs that wish to do them harm. It also helps when said citizens can drive down roads knowing their cars won’t get knocked out of whack due to the lack of street repairs.

By not overtaxing its citizens, concentrating on doing the functions government was meant to do, and working with our citizens instead of against them, Tulsa can truly flourish. Oh, and BTW KIT, since image is everything to you, our city can be an example to the surrounding area as to what happens when things are done RIGHT.

No arena, new City Hall building, or river can replace that.

No Tax, and NO FAIR

No tax and NO FAIR.

Is anybody going to the fair this year? I’m not and I’ll tell you why. I don’t appreciate a certain County leader (Chairman Miller) using strong armed tactics to force a long standing business out of our city so their buddies can have no competition. Furthermore, I don't appreciate said leader (Chairman Miller, hey, Chairman Mao used strong armed tactics, so the name fits for her) thinking she can decide which business stay and which go, as if we are her little playthings. As much as I hate conspiracy theories, KOTV did a revealing story showing the connections between contributions to Randi Miller and the Bell’s eviction. They also showed documentation that Murphy Bros, who runs the Midway at the fair was allowed to sign a sweetheart deal with no competitive bidding whatsoever. I remember Bell’s as a kid and it sickens me my daughter will not be able to spend time there like I did when I was her age. Bottom line, I’m excursing my freedom of choice and not giving the fair my $$$. (Gee, I am able to be pro choice and not kill any babies, talk about cool!)

As for the River tax, I will be voting a resounding NO Tuesday for the simple reason I believe we are overtaxed. Any person who will do the research can see this for themselves. Why should hard working Tulsans pay for the extras for our city when our streets are in such bad shape and our crime is out of control? I can think of better ways our city could spend our money. No right thinking person is against river development but why should the citizens of Tulsa pay for something the private sector should be paying for themselves. And if I hear one more commercial about how it’s for the children, I’ll throw up. I’m voting no for MY child so myself and her when she’s older will not be saddled an unnecessary debt.

One more thing to ponder when you pull that lever, remember, the plans are not fully developed, so think long and hard whether you trust Chairman Miller with what amounts to a blank check. Any doubt? Remember Bells.

Also remember, it’s YOUR money, not the city’s. Only by holding them accountable will we be able to turn this city around and restore it to the great city it is meant to be.

You Are Who Your Friends Are

I read a post on Michael Bates blog www.batesline.com where he talked at great leangth regarding the lawsuit filed against Oral Roberts University. I recommend reading it and the comments. Towards the bottom of his post, he lists several regents who, in his words, are who’s who of the Word Faith movement.

Why does ORU associate itself with teachers who teach, among other things… men are little gods, one can have wealth and health if they “confess and possess” Kenneth Hagen has said several times, one shouldn’t ask if it’s God’s will, simply name and claim. Jesus died spiritually, and that our words have meaning (i.e. if we say something and exercise our faith, it will come to pass) Hagen has even said God cannot act without our faith. Now, these are general teachings as different WF pastors teach and focus on different doctrines but this is clear enough to show the teachings are at the very least unorthodox, the worst outright heresy.

You heard me right, some of these teachings and their teachers are heretics. Kenneth Copeland has said that Adam WAS God (a throw back to an old Mormon teaching) and that when he reads in the Bible where Jesus says I AM, he smiles and says “I am too” and Benny Hinn said there 9 persons in the Trinity. I think he recanted this statement but he also said he gets his “anointing” from Kathrine Kulman’s grave, sounds like occultist spiritism to me.

Which is why I ask ORU, why is your university associating with these teachers? Is it because they are a way for the university to get large donors, or does ORU subscribe to these teachings too?

How father and son answer this question will go a long way to evaluating their credibility.

P.S. I do know there are several orthodox professors (one was my Youth Minster, another an old Sunday School teacher) but I still find it disturbing the list of people listed as ORU’s regents.

FYI: There is a great deal of information on the Word Faith Movement. For more info, check out the web site http://www.apologeticsindex.net/, and the book The Word Faith Controversy by Robert Bowman.

Wednesday, October 3, 2007

This is why doctrine is important

I heard about the recent lawsuit filed against Oral Roberts University. I'll not get into the specifics, but one thing that really sticks out for me is the allegations of the wealth and excess by the Roberts family. Others have blogged about this so I figure it's my turn. For me, this brings home once again the need for the teaching or right doctrine in the church. You see, ORU also bought into the "Name it and Claim it", "seed faith" ca-ca. Simply put (and I may be oversimplifying) if you are a Christian and want to be healthy and wealthy, why, have enough faith and BINGO! you'll get what you want. Of course, if you want to really get what you want, sow that seed and God will return hundreds fold. Teachers of this movement of course, take verses completely out of context and deny God his sovereignty. Why am I bringing this up? Simple, to protect against this error, the people of God must be equipped with the correct doctrines of the faith. We must not only defend ourselves, but be ready to offer an answer to those who peddle this teaching. How can we defend if we don't know the proper teachings?

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Here you will find me rambling about anything from theology, to history, to politics, to everyday goings on. After all, it's my blog and I can blog about whatever I want! :-)

A little bit about myself: I'm married to my wonderful wife (WW), have one awesome daughter (WD) and a houseful of dogs - my German Shepherd, my WW's miniature Dachshund, and our miniature Pinscher.

About the blog: It ain't called Okie Rambler for nothin'! I was born and raised in Tulsa, OK and LOVE to talk! I hope to post everyday, but I do have a life outside of this. I am a Christian, an unashamed conservative, and, though I don't agree with a lot of the crap that goes on, I do love Tulsa.